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So, I'm at work talking to a couple people who have seen my MySpace page. They ask specific questions about my beliefs, which they begin taking as the beliefs of every Satanist. Quickly I set them straight that these are my own personal beliefs and they cannot hold each and every practicing Satanist to the same.
Anyway, I begin thinking later on about blasphemy. Personally, I find it enjoyable. Even pleasurable to blaspheme holy things, whether by word or deed.
I suppose my question would be, isn't it unhealthy to focus so much on blaspheming and lose sight of gaining self empowerment through learning and growing? (I even know the answer to that while I was typing it, but I would like to read the replies)
Is blasphemy a healthy part of Satanism? Is it necessary? I guess in my infant stages, it seems necessary only in that I am still - to a degree - separating myself from my xian past. And believe me, I am doing a hell of a job. I find xianity more and more full of holes and shit all the time. Even talking philosophically to some of my friends, I can see the holes and bullshit it houses.
What do you guys think?
I'll post more when I've read some replies.
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Joined: Oct 2005 Gender: Male  Posts: 51 Location: Houston, Tx Karma: 0 |  | Re: Self Empowerment Question « Reply #1 on Mar 11, 2006, 6:27am » | |
Hail Stazz! Is Blasphemy a healthy part of Satanism? Is it necessary? Isn't it unhealthy to focus so much on blaspheming and lose sight of gaining self empowerment through learning and growing? These are good questions. It's difficult to generalize about people and about Satanists in particular. We are so very much individualists in our approaches to and practice of Satanism. So i will confine my comments to my own experiences.
I found the practice of blasphemy to be liberating. It allowed me the opportunity to ritualize my rejection of Christianity as I embraced Satanism. It was the means by which I could express all the anger and hatred I had within me and release it in a rather harmless manner. That was definitely a good thing. Until I began to practice blasphemy I didn't realize just how much anger I had toward my former religion, its beliefs and its clergy. Not only that but it was a dramatic way of severing the chains that bound me to Christianity. So, for me at least, it was both a necessary and healthy first step in Satanism.
It was, however, just one stage in my development. I found that, after a while, I lost interest in it, at least as a primary focus. I still blaspheme on occasion but it's more along the lines of ridiculing the contradictions between various Christian beliefs, practices, the Bible, etc. Often, this type of blasphemy takes place within the context of more intellectual discussions, often with Christians. While I generally avoid religious discussions with friends and colleagues there are times when I can't help myself and I rather enjoy pointing out the flaws, obvious or otherwise, in their theology.
Now, to answer the last question (or rather your first question), I know many Satanists for whom blasphemy is a sexual fetish, for lack of a better term. They do not seem interested in the more subtle philosophical aspects but are more or less fixated on venting their hatred for God and Christ. Is this healthy? It seems to me to rather limiting. I'm not a psychologist so I'm not really qualified to say whether it is healthy or not. My own personal opinion is that it's not. I don't think it hurts them particularly but I don't think it helps them either.
Some people would question whether these people are really Satanists. As far as I'm concerned they are if they say they are. After all, one of the things about Satanism that appeals most to me is that it is so individualistic. One of the consequences of this doctrine is that two Satanists can hold very different, even contradictory ideas, and still both be Satanists. There is no orthodox standard in Satanism against which everyone's beliefs are measured (although there are a few that most accept). Consequently, there is no heresy in Satanism. I guess it would be fair to say that relativity is the standard here. Many Satanists find this difficult to accept because we all like to be agreed with. But a "real" Satanist does not depend on the opinions of others to validate his or her beliefs and/or practices. I tend to avoid anyone who claims that their version of Satanism is the only kind and all others are wrong. In the end, Satanism is whatever works for you.
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Joined: Sept 2005 Gender: Male  Posts: 79 Location: Smyrna, TN Karma: 0 |  | Re: Self Empowerment Question « Reply #2 on Mar 14, 2006, 11:02am » | |
Hail Abaddon!
Thank you for the thought out and detailed reply. That helps me more than you know.
The individualistic nature of Satanism also appeals to me and helps me to be the person I am. It could be said too that it may be one of the top reasons I find so much liberation and freedom within being a Satanist. After leaving the christian faith, I am so free.
It is true that I enjoy blaspheming. It is also true that it gets quite old. I suppose my big concern is that I don't become completely fixed on blasphemy alone. Growth and wisdom and leadership is what I aspire. Those goals will be met when the times are right.
Growing up in christianity, I like being agreed with, and I have to admit that some of the parts of being so individual I find it taking a little longer to get used to. However, I know that we don't all agree all the time. And if I really dig back in my past, I cannot think of many christians who agree all the time either. And I'll admit, the Satanists who think their way is the only way is familiar with what christians do with their beliefs. It's their way or no way. Seems infantile to me.
Yes, I see much relativity in Satanism. That just blows my mind at times. I'm naturally thinking in those terms and hold that worldview, but to openly and freely display my thoughts and beliefs in those ways is so new. Even after five years of rejecting and turning my back on that asinine set of dogma I was brought up in. I'm very logical, rational, and methodical, so relativity appeals to me on all levels.
Just typing this much after you put so much into the reply seems inadequate, but I am very grateful for your time.
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Joined: Oct 2005 Gender: Male  Posts: 51 Location: Houston, Tx Karma: 0 |  | Re: Self Empowerment Question « Reply #3 on Mar 17, 2006, 8:57am » | |
Hail Stazz! Hail Satan!
Yes, Christians rarely agree among themselves. That's why there are so many denominations and sects. They aspire to unity but it has always alluded them from the very beginning. Hell, they've started many wars through the ages over obsure and equally pointless dogmas. They've killed indiscriminately for matters of opinion. That's why they are so stupid.
We all like to be agreed with. Nothing wrong with that. But the mature Satanist realizes that individual human nature is just that...individual. It can be difficult to free oneself from the need for acceptance by others (for our beliefs) but we are stronger for it. I suppose that's one reason why Christians and others are so intimidated by us. We don't conform to the norm as they define it. We challenge it. That disturbs them and threatens them because they are essentially weak-minded sheep. It also makes them dangerous.
Blaspheme as much as you want as often as you want. When the time ripe you'll move on. But also keep studying. Knowledge is Power. There are many kinds of lust. Lust for sex, lust for knowledge, lust for power.... Indulge in them all. Lavey teaches responsible indulgence. That is the key.
I'm a firm believer in relativity. I think that all things are relative. There are no absolutes.
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